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 Post subject: Snake-Eyes #3 *SPOILERS*
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:41 pm 
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SNAKE EYES #3
Written by Chuck Dixon, art by Robert Atkins, covers by Atkins, Agustin Padilla.

Snake Eyes captive! Will the death of the most dangerous Joe be the key to who assumes the role of Cobra Commander? Vikrim Khallikhan is betting it is. The COBRA CIVIL WAR builds toward its violent climax with Snake Eyes and Team Foxtrot trapped at the top of the world with a fortress of Vipers between them and survival.

32 pages, $3.99.


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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:21 pm 
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Yeah this is looking very good to me.... Good time to be a fan of joe comics....

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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:44 pm 
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Are we going to start getting SE flashbacks now? This reminds me of issue 10 of Marvel a bit.

Remember when the new main series was under 15 issues or so and it had tons of throwbacks to situations in the Marvel series? I would like to keep seeing that from time to time. It's fun to have a fresh story with little twinges of nostalgic moments.


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:45 pm 
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Are we going to start getting SE flashbacks now? This reminds me of issue 10 of Marvel a bit.

Remember when the new main series was under 15 issues or so and it had tons of throwbacks to situations in the Marvel series? I would like to keep seeing that from time to time. It's fun to have a fresh story with little twinges of nostalgic moments.


Yeah I have to say I am loving it.... Just the fact that SE is not Mr unbeatable is good to see and its not even Storm Shadow who is beating him right now.....

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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:36 pm 
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I sort of thought we were going to learn a little about SE during this imprisonment, but it's fine with me that we didn't...

...man, that eyelid is something.

Vikram changes clothes, like, everytime he walks into a new room... or that was just a tasteful way of showing that a whole day had passed. Iceberg even said so.

So, Slice and Dice do not look like the same two unmasked characters from number 0. At all, really, not even close. Without complicating this too much, can we assume they had disguises under their disguises? That's a pretty big oversight.

Running with that weird "Is Helix Teri ?" train of thought I saw around here, would she have unexpected ninja like reflexes if her and SEs had a Tomax and Xamot like bond? Could that be her real origin? She thinks her brother died?


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:17 pm 
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I noticed Vikrim's clothing changes as well ... particularly the last one.

Dear god the guy has a "Classic Cobra Commander" vibe, doesn't he? Particularly that final uniform, with its double-breasted buttons and shoulder adornments. (Epaulets)

Whoever ends up being the new Cobra Commander (Who will more than likely bear striking resemblance to the Marvel Cobra Commander) ... of all the candidates, Krake, Khallikhan and Satori have my attention. I like the idea of Krake, this diehard murderer and ultimate Cobra Soldier graduating to the role, and I kind of thought Satori's connection to Storm Shadow would make sense for where the more "classic CC" might come from, but Khallikhan is really reminding me of Good Old C.C. more than any of them.

Impenetrable, ludicrous "mountain fortress" ... tormenting Snake Eyes over a security monitor ... trying to psyche him out. The imperial uniforms. There's key differences of course - Vikrim has his Indian subcontinent background, some mysterious "past" that's why Snake Eyes is going after him, his sort of "smuggling/weapons" angle to the Cobra secret society niche role he fills, and of course the fact that he's some kind of weird zen master who could stop Snake Eyes' (granted, a weakened Snake Eyes) attack. He's different enough and threatening enough from the old version.

But more and more I'm wanting to see him become C.C.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:00 pm 
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He had me at the breast pocket carnation.

I REALLY want to see the doctor and the yakuza gentlemen. I don't mind if they completely dispense with Bludd and Baroness by next season.


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Khalilhan is a legit villain all the way around.

From the clothing to taunting to success from shady methods. Dixon has created a really good character that is equal in badness to the Joes goodness.

Which is always the key to a good bad guy, its possible they could beat he good guys.

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:55 pm 
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I definitely like this character as a villain. And I would love to see an enemy (besides Storm Shadow) who is a match for Snake-Eyes; simply because every hero needs a bad guy who can stand up to them; otherwise, where's the drama?

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 Post Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:28 pm 
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Khalilkhan is a very intriguing character. I agree with an earlier comment made that he has a Cobra Commander vibe to him. Plus, he can hold his own with SE? If it were up to vote and not body count, I'd vote for him. This series is really growing on me. Really hoping we don't have a love triangle going though with SE-Scarlett-Helix. NOT COOL. :2guns:

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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:11 pm 
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Khalilkhan is a very intriguing character. I agree with an earlier comment made that he has a Cobra Commander vibe to him. Plus, he can hold his own with SE? If it were up to vote and not body count, I'd vote for him. This series is really growing on me. Really hoping we don't have a love triangle going though with SE-Scarlett-Helix. NOT COOL. :2guns:


He's an interesting villain, yes, but I don't think he is the next CC. He does remind me of a modern version of Dr. No from the Bond film. He will either be a 'cannon fodder' type character to be thrown away OR another supporting cast for Cobra for the long haul. If you read the OTHER GIJoe title of this month where Satori asked Storm Shadow if he found Zartan "useful" at the PIT, he replied he was. He asked SS not to be disturbed by Zartan's presence into Cobra or the Yakuza. This means SS KNOWS something about Zartan and is connected to him regarding the Arashikage situation (a revamp, obviously).

So you have a NEW Arashikage connection here: SS, Snake Eyes, Zartan and Vikrim Khallikhan, and probably Satori. Where do you think Vikrim learned his fighting art form? It had to be the Arashikage clan OR another rival clan that knows how to counter their techniques. IF this is the case, then there is some kind of rivalry going on here, albeit a private one between Satori and Vikrim. Even Oyabun Satori asked if he would trust SS to cooperate with Zartan even if he was in the midst of their employ. One has to be BLIND not to smell something fishy.

I think Vikrim and Satori are 'red herrings' in the plot. You have to THINK from a writer's perspective, not a fan. If you were the writers at IDW, how would you have done this story? What do you think they are THINKING now?

Of course, those characters will be great as a supporting cast like Scarface or Dr. Venom in the old days, no question about it. But, I still do not think they are CC material.


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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:41 pm 
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After posting Robert's amazing cover here, I hoped that would be the one that I got from my NSLCS. Unfortunately, no such luck. I got the Padilla cover instead. That's not to say that cover wasn't good, but it just couldn't hold a candle to Robert's. With Dixon doing a terrific job with the previous two issues, I was really looking forward to seeing what this issue had in store for me.

Dixon started things off with some exceptional character interaction with Lix, Alpy, and IB. You really felt the sense of urgency with getting Pine clear and also H wanting to go back and get S-Eyes. Dammit I promised I wouldn't point out the shortening of code names. Okay, last time I swear.

The interaction gets even better when we switch to captive Snake Eyes and Khalikhan. Dixon does such a good job on this guy that I have completely forgotten how easily he dispatched Snake Eyes in the previous issue. I am really starting to like Khalikhan as a possible CC. He certainly has the bravado. The art here was just spectacular. Robert nailed the emotions in Snake Eyes' face and we got a glimpse of why he wears a mask.

The next scene is when Padilla took over. To his credit, the panels were done pretty well and I could follow the battle easily. The only problem here were the grenade explosions. This is just a pet peeve of mine. Grenades DO NOT create a fire ball. They burst into a cloud of what I can best describe as dust. This happens way too many times in the movies and just shows the person responsible hasn't done their homework. No different than Stallone firing a LAW inside a chopper or Norris shooting both sides of a door with his M203 without having to reload inbetween.

I don't know about anyone else, but I MUST get me one of those false bottom foot things! I was put off a bit at first to see how easily Snake Eyes took out the two COBRA Vipers, after hearing many times that he previously had struggled against just one. Then the scene shifted to Khalikhan who now had Slice and Dice with him and they asked why he ALLOWED Snake Eyes to escape. I couldn't help but be impressed here with how Khalikhan is handling this situation. This isn't a typical Snake Eyes shoot-em-up escape, but a test under what appears to be, at least somewhat, controlled conditions.

Back outside the art changed up again. I was really hoping that disc thingy would have put a slug right between Helix' eyes, but no such luck as she evaded all the lead projectiles. Maybe next time. One criticism of the art has to be the very last panel on page 13. Suddenly there were 6 disc thingys instead of one and they didn't appear to be designed the same either, with 4 barrels instead of 2. Anyway, Helix did a brilliant non-superhero move by attaching some C4 to the disc thingy and ridding the team of their snow-clad pursuers.

Snake Eyes continued his "escape" with Khalikhan taunting him every step of the way, ala ARAH CC. Robert was back on the art chores, thankfully, and Dixon really shined here. We get more of a glimpse of just how badass Khalikhan is, and that IDW COBRA is far more credible than their ARAH counterpart. Read and learn Mr. Hama.

Dixon ends the issue with the ever-impressive cliff hanger trifecta. Snake Eyes is squaring off against Slice and Dice, Helix is heading back to the base, and Iceberg is about to be overrun with Trouble Bubbles. Kudos to Dixon, Robert, and IDW for taking a chance on this title. Three issues and I am all in. This title already is better than 90% of the Origins issues and is really pushing ARAH and COBRA as my favorite. I for one cannot wait for the next issue to see what happens next!

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So you have a NEW Arashikage connection here: SS, Snake Eyes, Zartan and Vikrim Khallikhan, and probably Satori. Where do you think Vikrim learned his fighting art form? It had to be the Arashikage clan OR another rival clan that knows how to counter their techniques. IF this is the case, then there is some kind of rivalry going on here, albeit a private one between Satori and Vikrim. Even Oyabun Satori asked if he would trust SS to cooperate with Zartan even if he was in the midst of their employ. One has to be BLIND not to smell something fishy.


I don't have the issue in front of me right now, but I'm pretty sure that was Zartan disguised as Satori. That was the feeling I got by the way he was talking to SS, and I believe they had a panel of his face changing right after that convo to show that it was Zartan...


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Even Oyabun Satori asked if he would trust SS to cooperate with Zartan even if he was in the midst of their employ. One has to be BLIND not to smell something fishy.
Go back and look at the panel after "Satori" vouches for Zartan. Or you can just read the post above this one. :wink:


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So was Khalikhan's move on SE a proof that he is Arashikage? I mean the scene where Khalikhan points to SE and the latter falls on the floor. some kind of ninja move? Supposed to surprise SE? Wasn't clear at all to me what happened there.

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