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Cobra Commander 1973
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:59 pm |
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che wrote: Quote: Almost forgot. Cobra Commander in ARAH seems to be talking like a ****ing crazy man! I don't seem to remember him talking like this in the Marvel books. Someone needs to take away his thesaurus! Sadly, this is the same characterization for Cobra Commander near the end of the Marvel run, so at least Larry is being consistent. Thanks for the info.  I just figured that the books towards the end were nuts because of all the Transformers in the issues, and then having "Snake Eyes" in the title. I guess I can add another WTF part for those issues. lol I read issues 1-100 when I was younger, then bought a huge lot on Ebay (1-110) some time ago. I still need 111-155, but since they are so expensive, I keep putting it off. Maybe if the TPB's get into this range, I can finally read how the older Marvel series ended. I praise Larry for being consistent...but someone needs to put Cobra Commander into the BWS and have him talk normal...or at the very least, like he was in the cartoon. 
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:35 am |
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che wrote: Really? Who else was involved? I thought it was just Cobra Commander (was that the imposter) and Serpentor. If you're talking about Destro or the Joes, then I don't see either of their forces as participants. IIRC, Destro and the Iron Grenadiers were holding back until a winner was clear. And the Joes of course aren't part of Cobra. Yes, Destro I meant. Just because he didn't go in with gu ns blazing doesn't mean he wasn't a participant. His presence forced the other sides to change their tactics accordingly. Cobra Commander 1973 wrote: che wrote: Quote: Almost forgot. Cobra Commander in ARAH seems to be talking like a ****ing crazy man! I don't seem to remember him talking like this in the Marvel books. Someone needs to take away his thesaurus! Sadly, this is the same characterization for Cobra Commander near the end of the Marvel run, so at least Larry is being consistent. Thanks for the info.  I just figured that the books towards the end were nuts because of all the Transformers in the issues, and then having "Snake Eyes" in the title. I guess I can add another WTF part for those issues. lol I read issues 1-100 when I was younger, then bought a huge lot on Ebay (1-110) some time ago. I still need 111-155, but since they are so expensive, I keep putting it off. Maybe if the TPB's get into this range, I can finally read how the older Marvel series ended. I praise Larry for being consistent...but someone needs to put Cobra Commander into the BWS and have him talk normal...or at the very least, like he was in the cartoon.  Thesaurus-Commander FTW! He's the most charismatic and I'm pretty sure most succesful Commander-version. You can have your bumbling goofball CCs and super-serious wannabe-CCs in your other universes, but this is the real deal! "I want that uxorious chrome-visaged twit and his xanthippic consort winkled out like the limaceous bivalves they are!"
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:09 am |
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I for one really enjoyed this issue. The whole storyline with Chuckles and the Twins has been an amazing journey. They have been playing each other since the first issue and I anxious to see what happens in issue #13.
Of all the titles IDW is doing, Cobra has been my favorite. It has kept me wondering what was coming in the next issue and it has been great having the same creative team from issue #0.
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che
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:02 am |
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nero9000 wrote: che wrote: Really? Who else was involved? I thought it was just Cobra Commander (was that the imposter) and Serpentor. If you're talking about Destro or the Joes, then I don't see either of their forces as participants. IIRC, Destro and the Iron Grenadiers were holding back until a winner was clear. And the Joes of course aren't part of Cobra. Yes, Destro I meant. Just because he didn't go in with gu ns blazing doesn't mean he wasn't a participant. His presence forced the other sides to change their tactics accordingly. Okay, he was a participant but the Cobra Civil War was a fight between two rival factions within Cobra - Serpentor's forces vs. Fake CC's forces. Destro didn't seem interested in taking over Cobra but moreso in waiting to see how the war played out. He may have only been concerned with Baroness' safety and only became involved because she was backing CC. Ultimately, I see Destro and the Joes as bit players but not principal sides in the war.
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Voice of Reason
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:44 pm |
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hey guys, sorry but i havnt read this issue yet and as such i have not been following this thread so if what i am asking has been covered im sorry but i have a question:
now that the real cc is dead and there is a replacement cc how does this effect the main title. i guess what i am asking is where does this cobra book fit into the time line. does it go hand in hand with the main title or its it before it? as i recall this book was supposed to be as cobra was first starting out and all the joes knew was a name "cobra", if thats the case in the main title from issue one the joes have been fighting cc II?
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Sgt Major Haley
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:44 pm |
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I havent read the issue either, but heres my question, "who shot CC?" Was it Chuckles, or do we not know.....Could this CC be Dan, and SE killed him and the replacement be the CC we all know and love, all POed and ape s**t because of it???
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HELLSTROM
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:46 pm |
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Voice of Reason wrote: hey guys, sorry but i havnt read this issue yet and as such i have not been following this thread so if what i am asking has been covered im sorry but i have a question:
now that the real cc is dead and there is a replacement cc how does this effect the main title. i guess what i am asking is where does this cobra book fit into the time line. does it go hand in hand with the main title or its it before it? as i recall this book was supposed to be as cobra was first starting out and all the joses knew was a name "cobra", if thats the case in the main title from issue one the joes have been fighting cc II? The books are suppose to start tying together more closely when they relaunch them. This event leads into that Cobra civil war event. The chosing of a new Cobra Commander is what will help that. I personally think IDW could have done it sooner. Tying the books closer together that is. One other thing is that you are simply mistaken on is the fact that this book shows the "beginning" of Cobra. Not so. It shows the inner workings of Cobra and the fact that the Joes are just learning about Cobra? Not as important. Cobra has been around for quite awhile longer then the Joes have in the IDW Joeverse. That help?
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Voice of Reason
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:30 pm |
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Sgt Major Haley wrote: I havent read the issue either, but heres my question, "who shot CC?" Was it Chuckles, or do we not know.....Could this CC be Dan, and SE killed him and the replacement be the CC we all know and love, all POed and ape s**t because of it??? well since you asked and i just read it...yes i was chuckles...probly, kinda sorta maybe. how does that sum it up? lol jk chuck grabs the the gun, you see his refelction in cc's mask and in the next panel, blammo the back of cc's head comes off and chuck is grabbed up by some ceegee's. so its safe to say chuckles killed the commander. but if they want to pull a DDP they could say the trigger pull was never seen and it happened off panel that chuckles actually had a blank in there and it was major bludd on an adjacent roof top with .50 sniper rifle, also done off panel. so now you see why i say maybe  lol i think its safe to say chuck did it.
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Voice of Reason
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:37 pm |
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HELLSTROM wrote: Voice of Reason wrote: hey guys, sorry but i havnt read this issue yet and as such i have not been following this thread so if what i am asking has been covered im sorry but i have a question:
now that the real cc is dead and there is a replacement cc how does this effect the main title. i guess what i am asking is where does this cobra book fit into the time line. does it go hand in hand with the main title or its it before it? as i recall this book was supposed to be as cobra was first starting out and all the joses knew was a name "cobra", if thats the case in the main title from issue one the joes have been fighting cc II? The books are suppose to start tying together more closely when they relaunch them. This event leads into that Cobra civil war event. The chosing of a new Cobra Commander is what will help that. I personally think IDW could have done it sooner. Tying the books closer together that is. One other thing is that you are simply mistaken on is the fact that this book shows the "beginning" of Cobra. Not so. It shows the inner workings of Cobra and the fact that the Joes are just learning about Cobra? Not as important. Cobra has been around for quite awhile longer then the Joes have in the IDW Joeverse. That help? i was under the notion that cobra has been out there but they were a low level type player and now that they are ramping things up and going big time, coming to light of gi joe who would know all the big players out there since they are delta unit anti terrorist force and would know the big players. hence the book would show the transition between thug life and world terrorist group. maybe that was me just miss reading how these books play off each other or a combo of me not really giving a rats rear end about the cobra book and just not paying more attention then i should have. on a side not i heard cobra and origins is wrapping up? or one or the other?
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:21 pm |
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In May we have G.I.Joe #1 Volume 2 Snake Eyes #1 Cobra #1 Volume 2 Real American Hero #164 s So yes. Origins #23 which just came out a few weeks ago is it for that book. No big loose there. It was all over the map quality wise and more a "special mission" book after #5.  Cobra will be back with ANOTHER #1 issue. The whole cancel a book and give it a new #1 to boost sales is a bs marketing ploy to me. If I drop a book in the middle of a run? Either the writer or art is not to my liking or the book on a whole is not to my liking. A new #1 with Chuck Dixon on the reboot isn't going to change my mind. It's the contents that count. Just saying IDW. 
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Voice of Reason
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:06 pm |
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oh yeah thanks for reminding me. i forgot all about those new books and re-reboots. ive been sick off and on for the last month and think all these cold meds got me goofed up. feels like i have gone a few rounds with the brain wave scanner lol
is there a thread for the new se book? i havnt browsed the boards here in awhile. i wonder what its all about. i really hope it dont turn into a "featuring ninja force" book or master and apprentice 3
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HELLSTROM
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:14 pm |
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The threads for the new Snake Eyes book will probably go in the "other" section of the IDW forums here. Look for those threads there when the book starts. Or when May's solicatations are available.
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The Doomworm
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:26 am |
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Okay, so I've been reading since 1987 every month that an issue comes out, more or less when the issue comes out.
This month, well this month I waited on it so I could focus on my own work, and whatta ya know, I get a bunch of calls telling me what happens before seeing it plastered all over the comic sites. Man, that would have been real nice to read without foreknowledge.
This will be a fun ride. Let the naysayers know that they're missing out... and if there are nine players reputed to be vying for the position it really means a lot of the little character bits are going to be coming back strong. Here's the opportunity for the Hearts and Minds crew to justify their "origins," because those characterizations were as fun as they were brief.
Ah, yes. Thesaurus CC is as awesome as he is confounding.
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Hebime
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:10 am |
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HELLSTROM wrote: give it a new #1 to boost sales is a bs marketing ploy to me. It would only be BS if it didn't work. And it does, the numbers don't lie. It just doesn't work on you.... 
_________________ Sic vis pacem, para bellum -- The core of the GI Joe fantasy is loyalty. The fantasy isn't about shooting at Cobra, the fantasy is about 'If I get left behind, Snake Eyes will come and get me.' -Larry Hama, CHUD Interview
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HELLSTROM
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:45 pm |
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Hebime wrote: HELLSTROM wrote: give it a new #1 to boost sales is a bs marketing ploy to me. It would only be BS if it didn't work. And it does, the numbers don't lie. It just doesn't work on you....  Yeah, it works. Only cause the general comic readers aren't too bright to realize that the characters have no history and nothing worthwhile happened in the past "x" issues. If I want to try a new book I don't have to wait for them to cancel it and throw a new #1 issue out. I picked up the volume #1 trade and jumped on the current released issue. If I liked it enough and did not want to "trade wait"*. (Fables comes to mind here. I dropped that with #100. A new #1 won't get me back.) My point here is that it only works temperoraly. Then the numbers slide back to normal after "x" issues. I mean really? How many new readers are going to be at the Joe relaunch? How many of those sales are going to "varientcoveritus"  *That's today's market for you cause everything gets collected. Did not even need that back in the day. Then again sales were more healthy for ALL books back in the day. 
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